USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices

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DanBa
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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by DanBa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:24 pm

Yet another Stoner Acoustics UD100-based rig with FitEar TO GO! 334, the best in-ear headphone in the world according to Steve Guttenberg:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/597146/fitear- ... st_8754519
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-57486 ... -togo-334/

stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> UD100 USB DAC >> Pico Slim amp >> FitEar TO GO! 334 IEM


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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by DanBa » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:10 pm

Samsung Galaxy S III & HeadAmp Pico USB DAC/amp:
Pictures Of Your Portable Rig (part XV)

stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> micro-A male to type-A female USB cable + type-A male to mini-B male USB adapter >> HeadAmp Pico >> V-Moda M-80


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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by DanBa » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:05 am

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note II:

stock Galaxy Note II > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the Note II) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8771744

. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (via USB 2.0 hub)
http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/625054/samsung ... st_8774905

. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8750862

. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/625054/samsung ... st_8777791

. Objective DAC (ODAC):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-pro ... e-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8758515

. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-pro ... h-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop ... 0527192048
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8758515

. Sony PHA-1 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.touchmyapps.com/2012/10/09/s ... in-review/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8769593

. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):
http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_en/index.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8769593


So far, like the quad-core Exynos powered Galaxy S III, the new quad-core Exynos powered Samsung Galaxy Note II can work with the FiiO E7, the iBasso D12, Leckerton UHA-6S MKII, the ODAC and the VentureCraft Go-Dap X; has some issue with the HeadAmp Pico; and doesn’t work with the FiiO E17.

So, in regard to standard USB audio, the behaviour of the Galaxy Note II is likely identical to the behaviour of the Galaxy SIII.




A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S III:

stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

. AMB Gamma 1:
http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma1/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8750043

. AMB Gamma 2:
http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma2/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=279

. Apex Glacier (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ttvjaudio.com/Apex_High_Fi_A ... 000010.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8776449

. Asus Xonar U3 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_U3/
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread. ... ost8551119

. Behringer UCA202 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8654226

. Behringer UCA222 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.behringer.com/en/Products/UCA222.aspx
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-da ... post171651

. Beresford Caiman:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio- ... 787/review
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-da ... post171651

. C-Media chipset-based sound card Dynamode 7 channel USB 2.0 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.chinacomputerparts.com/d-p11 ... 00-cables/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=449

. Cakewalk Sonar SPS 25:
https://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/rea ... 2007013101
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-da ... post171651

. Corsair HS1 Gaming headset (USB DAC/amp/headphones):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3989/cors ... ng-headset
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... st27238117

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/07/galaxy ... art-2.html

. Furutech ADL Cruise (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.furutech.com/a2008/product2.asp?prodNo=399
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8567838

. GoVibe DAC:
http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=2824.0
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showt ... ry53317360

. GoVibe Mini USB DAC:
http://www.jaben.com.au/collections/go- ... be-minidac
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally ... st_8525675

. GoVibe Petite (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/290711/govibe- ... tle-update
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8552452

. HRT HeadStreamer (USB DAC/amp):
http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/headstreamer
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8677483

. HRT Music Streamer II:
http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/music-streamer-ii
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8534856

. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (Exynos-based S III connected to Pico via USB 2.0 hub)
http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8539705
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8688938
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8638606

. HeadRoom Total BitHead (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headphone.com/learning-cente ... ad-faq.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8527516

. HeadStage USB DAC cable:
http://www.inearmatters.net/2010/04/sho ... cable.html
http://www.headphiles.org/index.php/top ... #msg241979

. HiFiMan Express HM-101:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/571330/hifiman ... le-usb-dac
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=291

. iBasso D-Zero (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=73
http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... t=20#p1636

. iBasso D2 Boa (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=30
http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/picture ... st_8509186

. iBasso D2+ Boa (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=42
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-da ... post171651

. iBasso D5 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/556490/ibasso- ... sb-dac-amp
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally ... st_8462693

. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=39
http://www.head-fi.org/t/628374/samsung ... st_8735134

. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=924

. iQube v2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.i-qube.nl/index.php?id=24
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... count=1268

. KingRex UD-01:
http://www.kingrex.co.uk/dac.html
https://www.facebook.com/headfonia/post ... 7358128700

. Leckerton UHA-4 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-4/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/536982/leckert ... st_8773152

. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/602493/new-lec ... st_8698006

. M-Audio Duo USB Audio Interface:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct02/a ... maudio.asp
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8788814

. Matrix Mini-i (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headfonia.com/matrix-mini-i-balanced-dac/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8768166

. Microsoft Philips Digital Sound System 80 (USB DAC/amp/speakers):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Sound_System_80
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... ?t=1703218

. Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 (USB headset):
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-au ... /JUG-00003
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... count=1355

. NuForce Icon HDP (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/iconhdp/index.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8567838

. NuForce Icon Mobile (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/nufo ... obile.html
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8759826

. Objective DAC (ODAC):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-pro ... e-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8707637

. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-pro ... h-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop ... 0527192048
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?s ... 8276945555

. Ordnance .25 (USB DAC/amp):
http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=9984.0
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally ... st_8462693

. RSA Intruder (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/intruder
http://www.head-fi.org/t/627080/new-bal ... st_8781567

. RSA Predator (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/predator
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8538933

. Stoner Acoustics UD100:
http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showt ... ry54596977

. Syba SD-AUD20101: (optical S/PFIF capable)
http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1191
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8736082

. Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... J4x85vGfDg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=871

. Topping D2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.mightybigword.com/tnt/2012/0 ... ac-review/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... count=1357

. Topping TP30 (USB DAC/amp):
http://news.cnet.com/8300-5_3-0.html?ke ... ping+TP-30
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/05/samsun ... audio.html

. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):
http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_en/index.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8708233

. xDuoo XP-1 (USB DAC/amp):
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl ... %3FID%3D47
http://translate.google.fr/translate?tl ... CCcQ7gEwAA

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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by DanBa » Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:05 pm

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About Android-specific USB audio:
"As of now, the standard Android releases do not include USB host support. Samsung decided to add this feature on their own. The Android folks are working on a funky USB dock protocol that works over USB (sort of like what Apple does) that, frankly, most of us developers think is stupid. There is certainly a push to put USB host support for standard devices (like audio, keyboards, etc.) into the normal Android releases."
[Pete Millett, design engineer from Apex Hi-Fi]
Apex Glacier amp/dac review and appreciation thread

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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by DanBa » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:17 pm

Samsung Galaxy S III & Apex Glacier:
http://www.ttvjaudio.com/Apex_High_Fi_A ... 000010.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/632019/apex-gl ... st_8814974

Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> Apex Glacier USB DAC/amp


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Galaxy S III : 13,6 cm * 7 cm * 0,8 cm
Apex Glacier : 11,4 cm * 6,5 cm * 0,9 cm

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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by DanBa » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:56 pm

Galaxy Note II & Headstage Lyrix Pro USB total :
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8854850

stock Galaxy Note II > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the Note II) >> Headstage Lyrix Pro USB total USB DAC/amp >> Beyerdynamic DT-770 Premium


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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by DanBa » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:14 pm

Samsung Galaxy S III & planar magnetic Audeze LCD-2:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8873554

stock Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the Note II) >> RSA Intruder USB DAC/amp >> Audeze LCD-2 headphones


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"The LCD-2's sound phenomenal in balanced mode off the Intruder... Yum."

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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by DanBa » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:55 pm

The us$43 Samsung Galaxy S3 + Car Stereo Upgrade for WAaaY better sound quality!
http://www.head-fi.org/t/639883/the-43- ... nd-quality

Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> "USB OTG" cable >> Behringer UCA202 USB DAC >> car stereo amp >> car stereo speakers

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And so what are the results you ask?

HOLY MOLY!
Not only is the audio quality MUCH improved, but the sound is so CLEAN now. No clicks, burps, or any other weird background noises. Just straight CD quality background silence.
Even my GPS voice sounds prettier. hahah
Bass is tighter and deeper. Highs are more revealing. Everything is so much better that a novice could tell it sounds better.

And yes, GPS navigation works perfectly. If I'm listening to Pandora or an MP3 and my GPS needs to talk, then my music will go several db quieter and GPS will speak up, then afterwards the music will automatically go back to full volume.

Also, one thing I hated about Bluetooth was everytime I turned my car off for just a minute, when I would power it back on the Bluetooth would not consistently reconnect. Well, this USB-OTG has been very consistent for me so far. Music just picks back up where it left off at and is fairly quick to do so.

Cons? Well, I haven't tested hands free calling yet. But I'm told it doesn't work with this USB-OTG to DAC configuration. Maybe there is a bluetooth solution for that. I dunno? And AOSP does not yet support DACs.

Pros? Freakin everything.

Pics are below.


Here is the DAC and the USB-OTG cable:
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This is how you configure the DAC.
You can probably also use the headphones output instead of the stereo RCA, but I didn't try it.
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I wired up my USB-OTG cable to my iBOLT dock. It comes up through my dash defrost vents.
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This is what the three connectors on the USB-OTG cable look like:
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Here is the DAC being wired up. I taped up the non-used RCA's to prevent anything bugging with them.
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I wrapped up the DAC with DUCT tape.
Not sure how or why the pic is sideways. It looks normal on my desktop.
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Hid it behind my dash.
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Here is the USB-OTG cable with my iBOLT dock.
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The car stereo w/audio cable attached. Some car stereos have the 3.5mm connector in the back. Or a dual-RCA input. I'd prefer one of those to have a cleaner install. Maybe someday I'll upgrade my car stereo.
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And here is the finished product. My S3 docked, charging and outputing beautiful digital music!
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.." [CZ Eddie]

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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by TYA » Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:48 am

Oh my God.

Dts Es track -> neutronmp on galaxy s3 -> digital stream via usb port -> iBasso D zero -> Shure SE535 = heaven sound.

- clarity
- clean
- tight bass

EQ and 3D effect of neutron work so fine.
All tweak of Gokhan inside his kernel doent effect (due to it process after S3's dac, i think), but Neutron effect still avaiable to the digital signal

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Re: USB DAC support on USB OTG enabled devices? {Please vote

Post by Nirmalanow » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:39 pm

There is a new app called USB Audio Recorder Pro that allows use of USB DACs with Android. Unfortunately, it does not have many features yet as a music player ( it was designed mostly as a pro recording app) and also does not work with any other apps including Neutron or the Noozxoide app which improves sound quality even further and does work with Neutron. But the release of this app suggests there might be a way to add USB DAC support to Neutron. I do not know how they did it with this new app, but maybe something similar could work in Neutron.

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